SMN damage on HNMs

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Silvine
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SMN damage on HNMs

Post by Silvine » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Hello!

The damage for level 70 BPs against stronger monsters like Fafnir is kinda low right now, is there any way they could be brought up to era level a bit?
Over the course of 2 Fafnirs with 286 magic skill and 3 atk merits these were the numbers using Spinning Dive primarily, but trying all of them to see if anything did more damage. (They didn't)

248, 330, 265, 168, 256, 184, 333, 426, 189, 302, 369, 218, 733 (!), 442, 338, 220, 221, 173, 232, 440, 133, 275, 246, 256, 290, 188, 254, 267, 183, 290, 191, 192, 237, 325, 205, 346, 363, 289

Thanks

cheezcake
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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by cheezcake » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:57 pm

Git Gud

Indelacio
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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by Indelacio » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:20 pm

Fairly certain in the old days I saw abilities like predator claws hitting HNMs in sky for 700-900. When diabolos was added he would hit for 1200-1500 on nether blast. Considering rage pacts have a long CD just like a BLM's ancient magic, the damage they do should be far more competetive.

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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by Cadant » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:05 pm

Indelacio wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:20 pm
Fairly certain in the old days I saw abilities like predator claws hitting HNMs in sky for 700-900. When diabolos was added he would hit for 1200-1500 on nether blast. Considering rage pacts have a long CD just like a BLM's ancient magic, the damage they do should be far more competetive.
I used to run an all bst/smn sky LS. I remember nether blast doing anywhere from 500-900 dmg. Obviously can't prove this, just going by memory. kirin used to take us 20-25 mins a kill with a minimum of 6 smns in the group using kite method. using an average of 700 per BP the math seems reasonable given the listed HP on wiki. again, anecdotal evidence...

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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by pillanious » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:24 pm

Nether blast did exactly 508 without merits. It was reliable, but far less damage than the other pacts.

Indelacio
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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by Indelacio » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 pm

My memory is a bit fuzzy since it was a long time ago but i'm pretty sure Diabolos did 1k+ hits. No that it really matters since hes not in game yet.

pillanious
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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by pillanious » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:04 pm

From the Wiki:

The Formula is: (5 x Avatar's Level + 10) * MAB(of avatar)/MDB(of monster) * Day/Weather

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Re: SMN damage on HNMs

Post by Indelacio » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:29 am

pillanious wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:04 pm
From the Wiki:

The Formula is: (5 x Avatar's Level + 10) * MAB(of avatar)/MDB(of monster) * Day/Weather
NMs with high physical defense "resist" the level 70 BPs, and the 70 BPs can miss so a resist is not purely based on BP accuracy. Not sure where the problem lies but overall BP damage is about 25-35% lower than it should be.

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